TheWildGeese.com’s Daniel Marrin spoke with Mr. Young about this aspect of the Irish experience during America's Civil War.
TheWildGeese.com: When I think about the Irish during the Civil War, especially those of New York, the most prominent memory is of the Draft Riots, the local uprising against Lincoln. Yet you wrote that the Irish ethnic firemen seemed to flock to join the [Union army] Zouaves. Why do you think they joined in such droves? Was there just such a buildup of support for Lincoln and the Union that they thought nothing of joining?
WG: Were Irish soldiers promised some kinds of pensions or post-war benefits during the war?
Young: No, they weren’t even promised regular pay. Bounties would become an important recruitment tool later in the war, but in 1861 recruits were not expecting anything more than a chance to preserve the United States and show their qualities as American citizens.
WG: You’ve written about The New York Times’ scathing attacks on the Irish Zouaves’ character after Bull Run. Did the Irish have allies in the press who gave [the Zouaves’] side of the story? How did their side of the story tend to get around?
(Below right: The Fire Zouaves at 1st Bull Run, by Don Troiani.)
WG: Why were the Irish overwhelmingly Democratic voters in that time?
Young: The explosive growth of anti-immigrant nativism and the Know Nothings concentrated the Irish into the pro-immigrant Democratic Party. The Democrats were also the party of anti-elitist members of the urban working class. They opposed early efforts at prohibition and other forms of neo-Puritanism and they opened government employment to immigrants. The Irish saw the new Republican Party as the Know Nothings in disguise.
WG: Did the Civil War have the effect of easing Irish assimilation and erasing the [Irish as dumb and ugly as] gorilla stereotype? What, if not the war, contributed toward that change in popular opinion?
(Below left: The 69th New York celebrating Mass in the field.)
WG: You remarked in our earlier conversation that many immigrants today who don’t know about the Civil War could relate to the experiences of the Irish immigrant soldiers, both in and after the war. How so? What do today’s immigrants share with the experiences of the Irish soldiers of that time?
Young: They see the experiences of these young Irishmen and their families replicated in their own lives. They take the toughest jobs, yet don’t feel appreciated. They struggle with how to retain elements of their old country in a country where their aspirations now reside, just as the Irish of 150 years ago struggled with the question of whether they could find a way to be good Americans and good Irishmen and Irishwomen. I’ve seen several discussions (in Spanish) about the feelings of commonality some of my Latino readers feel with these long-dead Irish.
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